Sometimes parents of children who have suffered a stroke feel like they don't fit in and we provide an analogy that hopefully will change that mindset. Our guests today are AVM Brain bleed survivors Kyler Lewis and Ashley Lindsey who talk about what it is like to deal with brain vessel disease. We end the podcast going over our last chapter of our focus book, Suffer strong where Jay talks about "The Unknown" and we learn about the importance of hope when suffering and finding bravery to illuminate the darkness and uncover the treasures hidden there.